Der super Sternzerstörer - Thread

[Force-Scout]

da http://www.phoxim.de/thorsten_plauk_ssd/torsten_plauk_ssd14.jpg
kennst de nicht die executer asu rückker der jedi ritter Vaders schiff

 

[Mark]

achso THX
des sind die RIESEN FETTEN ...
LANGEN...
die sind ja 10 mal so groß wie zerstörer... wenn nicht größer..
aber ich glaube es gibt 3

 

[Force-Scout]

ja die sind über acht KILOMETER lang

 

[Mark]

BOAH:::...
und der normale zerrstörer glaube ich ist 1km ..??
oder?

 

[Minza]

1) Executor:
The first SSD, typically measured at around 19 km, was built at Fondor. It was turned over to Vader as his flagship after the battle at Yavin to use against the Rebel base. The ship had no notable weaknesses when Rebel spies stole its plans. Its last commander, Admiral Piett, was aboard the ship during the battle of Endor, when Rebel fighters disabled its shields and A-Wing pilot Arvel Crynid crashed into its bridge. The Executor collided with and was destroyed by the Death Star II before maintenance crews could regain control.

2) Lusankya:
This Executor-class Star Destroyer, built at Kuat Drive Yards under the name Executor at the same time as the other Executor at Fondor, was hidden by Emperor Palpatine in a drydock located beneath Imperial City on Coruscant. It was renamed the Lusankya after its completion. Much of the ship's internal systems were given special override commands which allowed only Isard to gain access to them. After Palpatine's death at Endor, Isard used it to house the prisoners of war still held by the Empire. When the Krytos virus was defeated, Isard decided that it was time to leave. She used the Lusankya's turbolasers to destroy the city above it, then lifted free of its lift cells. It then punished the planetary shields and escaped from Coruscant, fleeing to Thyferra. During the Bacta War, the Lusankya badly damaged. Lieutenant, Waroen surrendered the ship to Wedge Antilles and the crew was allowed to defect or leave Imperial service. The remains of the ship were moved around to several Republic shipyards until it was finally placed in drydock at Bilbringi, once those shipyards were converted after the death of Grand Admiral Thrawn. Wedge Antilles was eventually given command of the ship for a special task force he commanded, but he retained his position within Starfighter Command. Wedge commanded the huge ship in the defense of the planet Phaeda against Commander Vivant and the Steadfast. During the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy, the Luskanya was part of the defense fleet assigned to protect Coruscant. When the capital planet was taken by the alien invaders, Commander Eldo Davip escaped the destruction and regrouped with the small fleet at Borleias. Davip and Antilles began taking the huge ship apart. Weapons emplacements were removed and large portions of the interior were gutted. The resulting construction, known as the Beltway, became a huge needle-shaped ramming device. As the final defense of Borleias ground on, the Lusankya took heavy damage which ate away at the ship's surface and gradually revealed the needle underneath. Commander Davip then used all remaining engine power to drive the ship into the Yuuzhan Vong worldship in orbit around the planet. Just before impact, Davip managed to escape in a small shuttle. The Lusankya drove deep into the ship, causing huge amounts of damage before both ships exploded and died.

3) Aggressor:
a Executor-class Star Destroyer assigned to Admiral Roek during the Galactic Civil War, the Aggressor was part of the fleet which was patrolling the Inner Rim. It was accompanied by five Imperial-class Star Destroyers. Shortly after the Battle of Endor, The Aggressor was commandeered by Grand Admiral Grunger, who used the ship as his own personal flagship. Grunger took the Aggressor and the huge fleet of warship she had amassed and tried to take control of the Corellian Sector. When Grand Admiral Pitta refused to back down, Grunger rammed the Aggressor into Pitta's torpedo sphere, destroying both ships and both Grand Admirals. Note that the Star Wars Adventure Journal, Issue #2 indicates that the Aggressor was recalled to defend the Corellian shipyards six months after the Battle of Endor.

4) Brawl, Iron Fist:
this was the original name of the Executor-class Star Destroyer stolen by Warlord Zsinj and later renamed the Iron Fist. The Brawl was one of the first four Super-class ships created at the Kuat Drive Yards facilities. It was pursued by Han Solo and the fleet supporting the Mon Remonda during the early years of the New Republic. In a series of battles at Kuat, Vahaba, and Selaggis, Solo nearly destroyed the Iron Fist. At Selaggis, Solo came the closest to killing Zsinj, but Zsinj used the Second Death to flee with the Iron Fist intact. It was later destroyed at Dathomir by Solo's fleet.

5) Terror:
the Executor-class Star Destroyer commanded by Admiral Sarn, the Terror was used by Darth Vader as the command ship during the V38 development project. The Ship had been requisitioned to protect the Empire's investment at Imdaar Alpha by Grand Moff Batch, who had managed to acquire a wealth of stygium crystals after smashing Aeten II. It was destroyed by Rookie One and Ru Murleen, just before they destroyed the Imdaar Alpha development station.

6) Vengeance:
Admiral Senn's Executor-class Star Destroyer, the Vengeance was destroyed by the Alliance prior to the Battle of Endor.

7) Reaper:
this Executor-class Star Destroyer was assigned to Moff Ardus Kaine. In the wake of the Battle of Endor, Moff Kaine held the Pentastar Talks aboard this ship, eventually muscling business and political figures into agreeing to the formation of the Pentastar Alignment Treaty. He used it to patrol the Pentastar Alignment about three years after the Battle of Endor. After Kaine was killed during Operation Shadow Hand, the Reaper was absorbed into Admiral Pellaeon's fleet. Lost during the Antimeridian Sector Campaign, probably destroyed or scuttled.

8) Guardian:
a Executor-class Star Destroyer under the command of Admiral Drommel. Drommel and the fleet supporting the Guardian were on station at Coruscant when word of Emperor Palpatine's death reached the capital world. Drommel fled, and took the Guardian with him, to his home system of Oplovis, where he started his own campaign against the New Republic. The Guardian was badly damaged in the Battle of Tantive V with New Republic forces about three years after the Battle of Endor. It was last seen near Soullex, in the Fardon System, before the New Republic managed to recover the ship and refit it. The Guardian began a kind of floating base of operations, but later it was deployed to Kashyyyk. It was still active but not put into combat duty during the Vong invasion. It was last seen in 28 ABY, acting as an escort for high-ranking Galactic Alliance members.

9) Razor's Kiss, Second Death:
this was the name of the Executor-class Star Destroyer Warlord Zsinj attempted to steal from Kuat Drive Yards, in an effort to augment his fleet in his struggle with the New Republic. He devised a plan in which several pirate groups would aid in the attempt, including the Hawk-bats of Wraith Squadron. Once his forces got the huge ship moving, several waves of pirates would swoop in and contain the Kuati security forces while Zsinj made off with the ship. However, the Hawk-bats relayed information of the attempt to the New Republic's command, and they sent in Han Solo and the Mon Remonda in order to stop Zsinj. In a series of daring moves, the Wraiths managed to severely disable the Razor's Kiss, leaving it nothing but smouldering scraps after Shalla Nelprin destroyed its shields and the Mon Remonda and Tedevium pummeled it with fire. After the battle over Kuat, Zsinj's forces recovered as much of the Razor's Kiss as they could, building a craft known to Zsinj as the Second Death. It was used at Selaggis Six to simulate damage to the Iron Fist as Zsinj once again escaped the Republic.

10) Whelm:
this Executor-class Star Destroyer was the flagship of the Azure Hammer Command, and was based out of the planet Anaxes during the height of the Galactic Civil War.

11) Intimidator , Pride of Yevetha:
This Executor-class Star Destroyer which was sent to Black-15 from its normal dock in the Core, to make room for a Super-class ship. It was at Black-15 when the Yevetha took control of the shipyards. The Intimidator was spaceworthy, and Jian Paret used it as his command ship, until it was captured by Nil Spaar just after the Battle of Endor. It was renamed by the Yevetha as the Pride of Yevetha. During the final battle of the Black Fleet Crisis, Sil Sorannan takes control of the starship from Nil Spaar, stranding the Yevetha in hyperspace while taking the ship out of the Koornacht. In the wake of the Yevethan defeat at the hands of the New Republic, the Pride of Yevetha disappeared, but was found adrift and severely damaged near the Unknown Regions four years later.

12) Night Hammer, Knight Hammer:
Night Hammer was the name of the Executor-class Star Destroyer that Delvardus had been building in secret, using intense amounts of Imperial funding to create it. When Delvardus was executed by Daala at Tsoss Station, Daala took the Night Hammer as her flagship, renaming it the Knight Hammer. She decided to rename the ship for her attack on the Jedi academy on Yavin 4. The ship arrived shortly after the Jedi Knights had flung Pellaeon's fleet out of the system, but the Knight Hammer was more than a match for the few Jedi on the ground. After the arrival of the Republic fleet, Callista managed to steal a downed TIE Bomber on the surface of Yavin 4. She landed the ship in the fighter bays of the Knight Hammer and set off the bombs stored there. The resulting explosions ripped through the Star Destroyer's engine compartments, leaving the ship dead in space. The gravity of Yavin then grabbed the ship and sucked it into its core.

13) Allegiance:
A Super Star Destroyer used in the Battle of Mon Calamari. Was destroyed by the Emancipator when it was surprised by it with deactivated shields.

14) Unnamed Fondor Shipyards SSD:
This Executor-class Star Destroyer, one of only two known to be constructed at the Fondor Shipyards, was originally installed with a series of cloaking devices. The vessel was never completed. A Rebel strike team, led by Rogue Squadron, infiltrated the shipyards and destroyed the SSD and its cloaking devices before the Battle of Endor.

15) Jerecs Super Star Destroyer

16) Eclipse

17) Eclipse II

...dazu noch mehrere Schiffe der Sovereign-class (und ich denke schon, daß welche fertig gebaut wurden

Ein "normaler" Star Destroyer (Imperial-class) hat 1.6 km... die Executor (und andere Schiffe dieses Typs) hatte 19 km Länge, wärend die Eclipse-class 17,5 Kilometer maß.

 

[Force-Scout]

weiß ich nicht ist aber auch groß

21! das wusste ich nicht
hätte ich auch nicht gedacht

 

[Lord Garan]

EX-F bzw Glory of Yevetha wird in keiner Quelle als einer bezeichnet. Selbe für die Megador. Die übrigen Black Fleet Schiffe (neben der Intimidator) sind bestenfalls Vermutungen. Sovereign gibt’s keinen Beleg, dass je auch nur einer fertig gebaut wurde. 15) Unnamed Imperial SSD könnte leicht die Whelm gewesen sein. Jerecs SSZ dagegen fehlt bei der Aufzählung. Wer verzweifelt will und nicht komplett am Canonstatus von EAW FOC zweifelt könnte auch noch den SSZ erwähnen, welcher von Zanns Piraten bei Kuat vernichtet wird (die Annihilator).

 

[Joerschi]

Hätte auch nicht gedacht, dass es so viele gibt/gab. Sah eher nach ner Sonderanfertigung aus.

Zudem sich Palleon in der Thrawn-Trilogie ziemlich ägert, dass der Imp auch die Executor mit in den Tod gerissen hat. Wenns noch mehr davon gibt (schließlich wurden nicht alle zerstört), dann gäbe es doch Alternativen zu Thrawns Homeship. Die Gedanken Palleons ließen immer vermuten, dass die Executor der einzige Supersternzertörer war (oder zumindest der letzte). Naja - egal. Danke Minza - back to topic...

 

[Minza]

@Garan:
dann werde ich mal nachforschen und meine Liste überarbeiten müssen

@Joreschi:
und dabei wird in RotJ extra noch gesagt, daß es keine Sonderanfertigung ist:

LUKE
Vader's on that ship.

HAN
Now don't get jittery, Luke. There are a lot of command ships.

 

[Joerschi]

Du hast recht Minza. Schlecht nachgedacht von mir . Thx.

Ich will ja nicht vom Topic abweichen, aber: Gerade wenn Han diese Aussage trifft, dann ist es ja unwahrscheinlich, dass die restlichen Kommandoschiffe alle über Endor zerstört worden (hab zumindest keine weiteren SSZ gesehen). Warum dann Palleons Gedanken?? Gabs an der Executor noch irgendwas besonderes das die anderen Schiffe nicht haben?

 

[Minza]

Natürlich wurden die restlichen Schiffe dieser Größenordnung nicht über Endors Waldmond zerstört... letztendlich war nur die Executor in der Schlacht beteiligt.

Die Executor war nunmal das Flaggschiff der Flotte und die restlichen SSDs sind zum Zeitpunkt von Pellaeons Gedanken nicht im Besitz Thrawns bzw Pellaeon weiß nichts von ihrem Bau oder ihrer Existenz.

 

[Lord Garan]

Pellaeon ist vor allem enttäuscht, wegen dem Schicksal des Schiffes, welches ja wirklich nicht sonderlich ruhmvoll unterging, dazu erwähnt er, dass eine Menge der besten imperialen Jungoffiziere an Bord dienst taten und dieser Verlust machte sich natürlich nach Endor bemerkbar, als diese Offiziere fehlten um die Stabsoffizier und später Kommandoposten zu übernehmen. So musste Thrawn z.B. weitläufig mit alten Veteranen und mit zwangsausgehobenen niederen Offizieren vorlieb nehmen, besonders da Klonpalpi im Hintergrund die kompetenten Streitkräfte abschöpfte, oder die Kriegsherren sie sich gekrallt hatten.

 

[Horatio d'Val]

Gepriesen sei die Suchmaschine, denn sie zeigt uns Themen an, die es schon einmal gegeben hat oder die man für eine solche Frage beantworten kann........zum Beispiel den hier!

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Da im Film nur ein SSZ gezeigt wird, die Frage sich aber hauptsächlich auf das EU bezieht, verschiebe ich das Thema in den entsprechenden Bereich. Dort können die Mods das mit obigen Thread zusammenfügen.

 

[porphyrin]

Guden Abend

Ich weiß von 9 Supersternenzerstörern,allerdings könnten es auch mehr sein

Warum dann Palleons Gedanken?? Gabs an der Executor noch irgendwas besonderes das die anderen Schiffe nicht haben?
Allerdings,auf der Executor waren viel angängige Offiziere,Kapitäne ,Generäle und so weiter. Mit dem Verlust der EXECUTOR war dass Imperium also was Offiziersausbildung usw. weit zurückgeworfen worden

Edit:
OK

die Anzahl der SSD beträgt:12 stück

Hier die Namen:Executor
Lusankya
Guardian
Iron Fist
Razor's Kiss
Whelm
Intimidator
Reaper
Terror
Vengeance
Aggressor
Knight Hammer

Es gibt auch ein Risen Artikel bei Wikipedia über jeden dieser SSDs nur weiß ich nicht mehr,was man da eingeben muss.

Edit²:
Wie funktioniert dass mit den zitaten??

 

[masterTschonnes]

Was für ein Ding war dann eigentlich die DOOMGIVER, dieser riesige Klumpen, den Desan und Galak Fyyar in Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast benutzt haben?

 

[Minza]

Das war ein eigenständiger Träger, der zwar nach der Executor-class designed wurde, wegen seinen Modifikationen aber bei weitem nicht als solcher durchgehen kann.

 

[Yun-Yuuzhan]

Ich würde mal kerne wissen, wie viele Typen genau es von den SSD gib?s.
Ich kenne nur den Executor-Typ, und den Eclipse-Typ. Hab aber mal gelesen, das es so was wie den Super-Typ/klasse oder so ähnlich gibt. Das soll eine Executor Variante sein, die etwas kleiner daher kommt. Daneben soll es auch noch eine Mandator I & II- usw. geben, wie ein komplett schwarzer SSD namens Vengeance.

Ich dachte bis jetzt, das es höchsten nur zwei Klassen von denen gibt, weil diese so kostspielig sind.

 

[Darth Shador]

Wow schon so viele Seiten und immer noch beim richtigen Thema ?

Hey Yun Yuuhzan schau mal hier nach. Also, für mich sehen die ganz ehrlich, ALLLE GLEICH AUS

 

[porphyrin]

Also, für mich sehen die ganz ehrlich, ALLLE GLEICH AUS

Dass liegt daran dass das alles Schiffe der Executor Klasse sind

 

[Minza]

Bis jetzt sind afaik nur die Executor-class, die Eclipse-class und die Sovereign-class namendlich genannt worden.